“We’re Team Human” – Ford Hired Back 350 Engineers They Fired Due to AI – Ty

Ford is re-hiring human engineers after AI fails to match quality checks. What? This is a BBC story. By the way, this is this is a good story for team human. Man, we making a comeback. They’re not going to ship us out. Okay, they’re not going to ship us out and PBD podcast is run by Hi, this is Patrick Bet-David.

Today I’m going to talk to Jeff Snyder. You know, and today Tom Ellsworth. No, it ain’t going to happen. Humans are protected. Ford’s realizing it. Let me read this to you. Ford says it has hired some human engineers. Can you imagine we have to say human engineers? Just say engineers. We used to just say human engineers, just engineers.

Uh after AI failed to master skill and experience in a bid to reap the benefits of the tech which developers claim can cut costs and boost productivity, the US car maker adopted it across some parts of its operators including for quality checks. But according to Bloomberg, its executive said the firm has re-hired more than 300 veteran uh quality inspectors in recent That’s good.

Years to make up for the pitfalls of the automated systems. Team human, baby. We’re making [laughter] a comeback. We’re making a comeback. AI is a fantastic tool, but it is only as good as the information you can train it. Charles Poon, VP of vehicle hardware engineering, told reporters, “Over prior years, we didn’t pay as much attention as we should have to the experience of our most knowledgeable engineers that have been with us through many product cycles.

” The US automaker is among the to have seized on the buzz around AI particularly amid Wall Street’s fervor around the tech’s potential to increase margins. AI will leave a lot of white-collar people behind. Ford uh boss Jim Farley, great name, said in an interview with author Walter Isaacson last June and in October earning calls, chief operating officer Kumar said the firm was deploying AI across the entire industrial platform.

This include a rolling out 900 AI-powered cameras in its plans to detect quality issues, but Poon told reporters on Wednesday the firm’s AI-driven checks had failed to live up to expectations. Mistakenly, we thought that by just introducing AI and ingesting the design requirements that we had, that would produce a high-quality product.

Poon reportedly pointed to automated tools lacking the training and experience of a veteran technician, many of whom he said had left the company before their knowledge could be used to improve its tact. Tom, love this story. Your thoughts on this. I’m buying another Ford if they go back to team human, I’m telling you. Mhm.

; So, exactly. So, what happens here is is a bad design is a bad design. And if AI has got a bad design or design that’s got flaws, it don’t fix anything. And so, that’s the part of an engineer. What is engineer? Engineer is an inventor, a designer, an inventor. And guess what? Some don’t work, then you go into testing.

And what this is pointing out is they tried to put it in the quality side of it, but there were some we just wanted to ingest this data into quality and the AI was unable to replicate um the human. And so, I think what it shows is that this rush to put AI on everything, finishing tasks like this, you know, where you have the physical physical world, it it it is not happening.

I’m seeing more and more and more and more and more feedback and case studies on AI saved me time collecting data, analyzing it, and getting it to a point then I used it. So, it compressed that part of my work day by giving me, “Hey, here’s an assessment. Um it’s like um it’s like uh what is what is Pump’s thing? CFO Sophia or whatever it is.

Um where it compresses the time to find a list of things that now you need to go take a look at in terms of your budget and stuff. Well, now I got to go in there. It doesn’t do it for you. Now you go in there, you save the hour of compiling it, and now you have a list of things that you’re going to go after. And I think that’s AI at its best.

Here it’s just showing that AI is not coming for every job, and I think that’s I think this is this is good news. You have We covered it, and I’ll mention it again, the number of software engineer job openings right now is up year over year, and it’s not up by a small number, but they’re in different places now.

They’re in devops, they’re in uh-oh, quality, and they’re in areas where all of this code is getting created. Now we need humans to come out, baby sit the code, and look at end products, and see how the functionality is. So, there are for all these, you know, you see this company laid off 1,000 software engineers, they’re showing up in the in the one ads to apply their engineering skill in a different way.

It’s like ; a lot of things more important in life than making money. And this is coming from a guy that’s done pretty okay, and I’ve made some money, okay? But I tell you, how much fun do you and I have, Tom, when we’re with the family in the Hamptons hanging out, or we’re somewhere around the world, Italy, or Do we Do we think money, or we just sitting there laughing and enjoying the family’s company? ; No, we run around outside and find a variety of ways to hurt our ; ACL, I can’t do with ; we ; [laughter] ; We find all kinds of ways to get

sunburned and mess up our physical bodies. ; you, you know what it is? ; And have fun in the process. ; If you gave me a hundred billion dollars, but I had to give this up, I would never Give me a trillion, I’ll never give it up. Never. Never to sit down and talk to another human being.

I look forward to these conversations of us sitting down. I look forward to us sitting down and thinking, what does this human being that has gone through a bunch of in his life that we don’t know, he’s still able to act and look at me as if everything is okay, and carry the weight, overcome it, take care of his family, successful guy, drives a nice car, does his part, is smart.

I respect the hell out of this human being. What does this guy here, young guy, that is new very early on, he’s different than everybody else. Who the hell gives a about national security when you’re in high school? But he was interested in it. And you have to be called weird your entire life. Now he’s sitting here doing What is this guy that went from being a playboy Hollywood actor doing all the that he’s doing, the drugs, the alcohol, one day God gets a hold of him, father, family guy, business owner, fighter UFC, done movies with Brad Pitt, all this stuff.

All the he went through and now he’s sitting here preaching God. Are you kidding me? This is priceless. This is it. Of course we use AI. Of course we use ChatGPT. Of course we use all these different language learning models. None of it will replace the idea of doing something big together with human beings.

Doing the impossible with AI, you ain’t doing the impossible. Doing the impossible with other human beings when you watch Elon and his team at SpaceX when it goes off and you see the euphoric celebration, the tears, the crying. You don’t cry with AI. That’s a flipping movie called Her. Shittiest movie I’ve seen in my life with Joaquin Phoenix, who’s one of my favorite guys.

You fall in love with AI. No, you fall in love with a human being. Because you have to persuade them. You have to win them over and you have to keep them interested. That is hard. You don’t need to keep AI interested. You already have them. They’re going to do whatever you want them to tell you to do. That that’s boring.

There is no friction. There is no challenge. There is no difficulty. There is no what if they leave? What if heartbreak? What if There is none of that. You want the possibility of losing somebody. You want the possibility of that. That’s what makes this real. That’s what makes it exciting. So I love hearing the stories.

Can you go back? I don’t want to even look at this movie Her. The worst movies I’ve seen in my life. Look at Klarna, what happened to these companies? Replaced much of the its customer support with AI. What did I happen? They reserved it reversed it. Why? Customer satisfaction and service quality suffered on more complex issues.

The CEO and customers still wanted access to real people. Ford Motor Company, we just rehired 350 people. Why? They screwed up. They need those people. They need those people. Duolingo announced an AI first strategy then softened its position and increased human development. How the hell you going to go AI first when you need people to use Duolingo? What a dumb strategy.

Hey, guess what? We don’t need you guys to work here. We just need the customers cuz you’re not that important. But no, oh yeah, we’re team human. We’re so sorry because without these team human, if AI was learning a language, AI doesn’t need Duolingo to learn a language. AI already speaks every language. Your customers are people.

These companies that went full on you you you you you know, like like like the movie the the epic documentary {slash} movie. What do you call that movie? Uh Tropic Thunder? You never go full  You just [laughter] don’t do it. ; I love that movie. ; You never go full AI. ; Yeah, never go full AI. ; Oh, you don’t do it. You don’t do it.

; [laughter] ; For 400 years, right? You don’t you don’t do it. ; Yeah. If you’ve seen Tropic Thunder, you know the line for 400 years. What do you mean, you people? You people. ; Yeah. ; So, anyways, I love this story. Elon, do you have any thoughts on this one here yourself? ; Yeah, I think what you’re touching on is that community for humans is so important and it’s actually one of the determining factors for how long we live.

When we lose social communities and and social interaction, we actually pass away much younger. I do think there’s two conversations about AI. There’s AI today and AI in the future and if you want to make yourself valuable today, I think we’re in a place where you can integrate AI into what you’re doing to produce more value. I don’t know where AI will take us in the future, but I do hope I pray that there will be this renaissance, this evolution where mankind just learns to appreciate the human experience.

AI takes care of a lot of the stuff we don’t want to do. This is like an optimistic kind of outlook and we just get to deep dive into what the human spirit is really about and really explore that. An age of enlightenment through AI. ; You know what it is is the honeymoon period is starting to end, right? Cuz AI was you know we had Elon Musk talking about the singularity and you know some doomsayers saying it’s going to replace 50% of jobs and then suddenly people had to start using AI and realize the limitations there including what Pat was talking about,

limitations of AI versus humanity. So ; But that’s today. ; Again. ; So the conversation is how does this you know does does this technology ; increase linearly or does it increase exponentially? ; the point. ; increases parabolically but this is this is no different than any other adoption cycle. ; nothing.

So how much how much if if let’s just say 100 is it’s reached reached its capacity, full potential. What do you think we are right now? I think we’re at 50%. ; I think we’re at 5%. ; Not even that. ; Not even 5 half of a percent. ; Perfect. Okay, so we’re at a half a percent. But let’s take it to 100%. Go to 100%.

What does the world look like at 100%? ; Star Wars. ; Well, the world looks heavily automated. It looks like labor and intelligence don’t have the same value because they’re no longer scarce. ; What do you still ; No, intelligence still has value but labor doesn’t. ; No, I don’t think intelligence has value in that world because it depends on what you define as intelligence.

Like AGI would be more intelligent than the most intelligent doctor. It would be You would have an abundance of intelligence. ; to a point where having kids would be no value to having kids? Would it ever get to that point? Why ; Why not? Why not? ; Because the ; Cuz that’s really the question, right? Because if if if AI eventually gets to a point that I can make all the money in the world, why why did people have kids back in the days? Not today, 200 years ago why did people have kids? ; Labor.

; Free labor. ; Just so you know it was labor. ; Wow. ; Absolutely. ; Any industrial society, wealthy society child ; Hundreds of years we had kids to help families business. It was a replacement game. Do you think we’ll ever get to a point that we don’t have kids because hey AI can do my job so I don’t need to make money so why am I having kids for? Why would I bring kids in this society? I talked to an Australian economist last week who is the most pessimistic economist I’ve met in my life, which most socialist and

communist economists are. And he said to me, “I became a pessimist because I learned the facts.” I said, “If you were 25 today” He’s 73 today. I said, “If you were 25 today, would you have kids?” He says, “Absolutely not.” I said, “Why?” He says, “Cuz I know facts, climate change. I would never have kids.

” So, you go to a point of AI really getting to a level of 100. Would we still have kids? If yes, why? Again, I would Okay, so we could see a ; decline. We do see a decline in in childbirth ; in a big way cuz of affordability. But what if affordability’s out? ; What if we don’t make any money? Yeah, but it’s not even money though.

; Why do you have kids? ; Affordability is not an argument. Because we we’re much wealthier society and we have less kids. That’s that’s It’s not affordability. ; core and there’s a correlation. ; is what Pat said is that kids large families, where first of all, you need a lot of kids because quite a few of them died in in the in their younger years, but really it was labor.

You need more labor to work the family farm. ; say you’re going to have kids again because we’re going to hopefully this is the optimistic outlook because of this renaissance where the human experience is what is valued. And the human experience is having children, propagating your own species. I just think that will have the rest taken care of.

; I think the the current direction Okay, in the book Choose Your Enemies Wisely, I I I presented a chart to everybody on this thing. I don’t know if you’ve seen this chart or not. The chart is the selfish selfless score, okay? The selfish selfless score. Guys, I’m texting it to you. If you want to pull it up, I think Connor, you have it.

If you don’t have it, I’m just texting it to you right now anyways. If you just pull this up, I just sent the chart to you. If the score goes higher, we have a problem. If the score goes lower, we also have a problem. There needs to be an element of selfishness. People that have a very low selfish score, that’s a terrible society.

; Mhm. ; Cuz you need to aspire to do something. So like here, this was the chart, the net positive index chart that we put together in the book Choose Your Enemies Wisely. If you’re selfless, 0% you’re 100% selfish, you’re a criminal, you’re a psychopath. If you’re 90% selfish, 10% selfless, you’re a narcissist.

Very the world revolves around you. If you’re 80% self selfish, 20% you’re a solopreneur. You just kind of want to make money, you’re a laptop entrepreneur. If you’re 70/30, you’re a kingmaker, you’re a driver. If you’re 60/40, you’re a synergist, you bring people together. If you’re 50/50, you’re an advisor, you’re probably above 65 years old, 70 years old.

If you’re 40/60, you’re a supporting cast. If you’re 30/70, you’re a passive, you’re meek, you’re actually not good for any organization. You’re 20/80, you’re indecisive, you’re conforming to everyone. 10/90, you’re a weak-willed coward, and 0/100 doesn’t exist. So what happens if the selfish score goes higher? It’s all based on money.

Then what? What if everybody is rich? What if everybody’s a millionaire? What if What if life is all about how much money and everything I do for myself? There’s an element of this that we need to think about like it isn’t just if AI gets to point where everything’s about there’s going to be so much wealth and rich and is this it? It’s not it.

There’s got to be more to it. ; Well, that that when you were reading this and what hit me is that an AI future without faith in society is a future that cannot exist. ; And And And but faith leads to what though? For me, it’s human. It’s human. We We have to protect the human component of it. ; Mhm. ; That’s why I hate this term intelligence because intelligence is not just about spitting out data and understanding facts.

Intelligence is There’s more layers to it. And I don’t I I don’t think AI ever gets to all of those layers. That’s why AI will always be a tool for humanity because there’s some things we just can’t describe it. So intelligence is more than just strictly what AI can can deliver. And I think that’s what’s being discovered after this honeymoon process is over.

We’re starting to use AI and see its limitations. It is not a replacement for human creativity and intelligence as we, you know, maybe more comprehensively understand. It is a tool that humans will learn to adapt and use within their own, you know, own processes. ; Can you run a poll? Can you run a poll in the back? Here’s the poll.

Do you think the world would be happier if some sort of a UBI exist existed that paid everyone $300,000 a year, okay? You don’t have a You don’t need to have a job. You don’t need to do anything. AI has done such a good job that financially everybody’s taken care of and you just go live your life.

Do you think people would be happier or no? ; Can I offer a perspective? ; And try to write that question a lot shorter. And I gave you a paragraph to try to shorten that out. Count on the guys in the back to be able to do it. Go ahead. ; So, I I think the ideal situation is if everybody um in society was able to have you know, shelter, food, energy, transportation.

And then after that if you want more, you have to go work for it. Cuz that’s where a lot of crime comes from is where people don’t have those ; I don’t think that’s I Okay, so see see to me when you look at the capitalism concept, it’s four things. Free freedom to buy, freedom to sell, freedom to try, and freedom to fail. ; Mhm. ; You take the last one out, what the hell is the purpose of it? So, let me continue.

In marriage, divorce is good. ; Mhm. ; There has to be the possibility of a relationship not working out. There has to be the possibility of people not making enough money because it makes those who do success. There There has to be certain people in sports. Ecuador lost yesterday. They played horrible. Mexico crushed.

Did you see the celebration in Mexico? Did you see the mourning in Ecuador? It needs to be there. We all go through it. We need to experience public humiliation and embarrassment. It’s actually good that we go through it at times. We need to experience loss. ; Mhm. Who was it in the Bible that talks about there’s a season for mourning? There’s a season for is it Solomon? ; It’s King Solomon in the book of Ecclesiastes.

; Yeah, so the seasons for it. So, I’m trying to wonder if people would be happier if everybody’s minimum expenses were covered, would the world be happier? ; if the things you need to survive were because yeah, I I think that obviously after that you go into comparing things like caliber of life.

Like how how much can you do outside of those things? Like can you do fun enjoyable extravagant things? But that’s the main reason why people are upset and why people you know, start turning socialist and why crime is committed. So, if there was an abundance of wealth created from AI and we get to the point where there’s those things are so cheap to produce, then what’s the downside of just those main things you need to actually live being covered? ; Because the expectation will be that more will be covered.

It will never be enough and then Okay, and you need more more harm than good do you think? ; Yeah. ; I think fundamentally the human experience is one that has to come from some degree of real adversity. I think the more we’ve shown that we delve into comfort, the more two things happen. ; More miserable people get.

Yeah, the human spirit tends to decline and also we tend not to drive ourselves and push ourselves harder. So, there’s two like you have the the labor death and then you have the spiritual death that occurs. ; You see this ; I’m sorry. ; No, it’s okay. ; No, I said you see this all the time when people retire.

When people retire, they are usually miserable ; and they end up dying. Very quickly. ; Very quickly. ; So, we but I do think we have to re-evaluate the entire if AI is going to become full automation. If we are going to end up in this place where we have an abundance of everything, the concepts of money no longer have the same value.

So, we’re still think about money as it is today. Again, money won’t have that value. UBI becomes somewhat irrelevant when you’re provided with food, shelter, the ability to do So, again, you have to look at what is the purpose and value of human beings in the human experience? And how do we continue and propagate that so that people do that? ; 74% said no, they wouldn’t be happier.

26% said they would be happier. ; Yeah. ; With receiving 300? ; Whatever. If If the living expense I I think it would be they would be miserable. ; Absolutely. ; I think a majority would be miserable. There is There is no purpose in life if you’re not overcoming something difficult, challenging.

If you take all of that away, the most basic concept of why some people have money is because of what? Resistance, not money physical like six-pack or muscle, resistance. You take resistance out it’s it’s not this La La Land with unicorns flying above us and everything is good. I I actually think it’s a problematic society.

; I agree with that. I think ; what ; have Oh, sorry. Go ahead. ; It’s okay. ; You still have struggle though if you have those basic things like I think you’d still be striving to get the things that everybody else has cuz there’s levels to it. ; But just think of what inspires people. Think of if you’re ; take out the minimum.

The moment you take out the minimum you you you make people like You know what welfare does to most people? ; Oh, yeah, terrible things. ; You know You know what snap does to most people? You know what unemployment for 24 months when Obama had that and they keep bringing a You know what it does to people? ; I do.

I mean I My parents grew up on welfare, so I know what that is. ; steals away your dreams. ; Everything. ; Yeah. ; Your drive, your ambition, everything. ; Gone. The most miserable person I know in my life, whom I won’t to name, I love this person dearly. The most unhappy, miserable person I know in my life that I love more than words can describe lived off of entitlements, lived off of everything, and I’ve never met anybody more unhappy than this human being whom I love dearly.

; Mhm. ; Whom I love dearly. Entitlement programs stole away her entire dignity, and you see it in her eyes today, and it breaks my my that this happened. It breaks my heart that this happened. Now, I I I think I think if we’re constantly trying to make everything easier, I mean, you you know, when you get one of one of the biggest things is when you have a family and you have money, and you have to find ways to make things challenging for your kids ; Mhm.

; because it’s so easy for them. You have to find ways where I’m like, I’ll tell my wife, I said, “Babe, why are you making it easy? No. No, no, don’t make it easy. Make it harder. Why? They have a very good life. We We’re stealing things away from them if we make everything easy for them. No. Well, you think they do legs and you think they read books and Yes.

And you think that Yes. Yes. Why? What did we do? When we had nothing, we had a hard life. We have to find a way to provide difficulty and challenges for them. And so, I know the average person will watch and say, “You know what? You’re so disconnected from real life and a” There’s anybody that’s not disconnected from real life, man, I built a business and I failed miserably and I came up and I came from a life of having nothing.

Nothing. And if you take that away, you don’t know who I am. You literally won’t know who I am. You You won’t know who I am right now. I would just be a guy walking down the street. You’re like, “Oh, there goes a Middle Eastern. Why is he so tall?” That’s what you would say. ; [laughter] ; Okay? That’s what you Cuz that’s what most people say. Wow.

Yeah, I remember one time this uh 70-year-old lady, I’m giving a talk. She comes up to me. She says, “Did you say you’re Iranian and Armenian? And what was the last one? Sicilia?” No, ma’am. Assyrian. Yeah. What Why are you so tall? I said, “Ma’am, because I was breastfed till 17 years old.” [laughter] And she says, ; That’s the secret.

; “Seriously?” I said, “That’s a Middle Eastern culture. I was breastfed till 17.” Her husband’s like, “Honey, he’s messing with you. No man is breastfed till [laughter] 17 years old.” July 1st, 6:00 p.m. today, we are hosting the Fatherhood Webinar on how to raise strong kids in a bad society and a weak culture.

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