John Wayne Asked Frank Sinatra to Be Quiet Three Times—But His Reply Was Unacceptable

Los Angeles, California. January 1973. There are rooms in Hollywood that exist for the transaction of serious business while appearing to exist for pleasure. The dinner party is the primary instrument of this transaction, not the studio lunch, which is explicit and therefore limited. The dinner party, where the wine is good and the seating is considered, and the conversation moves through several subjects before arriving at the one that was always the point.

And where the arriving at it feels like a natural development rather than an agenda. The house on Mulholland Drive belonged to a producer named Arthur Freed, who had spent 30 years at MGM producing musicals, and who in his retirement maintained the kind of social position that required occasional deployment in the form of the considered dinner party.

The guest list on the third Saturday of January 1973 was 14 people. It included a director, two studio executives, a writer whose most recent screenplay had been nominated for an Academy Award, a newspaper columnist, three wives and two husbands of the working guests, and at the far end of the operational spectrum of Hollywood celebrity, John Wayne and Frank Sinatra.

This was not an unusual combination in the social geography of Los Angeles in 1973. Wayne and Sinatra moved through the same rooms. They had mutual friends. They had worked in adjacent registers of American entertainment for three decades without ever quite working together, which was its own kind of relationship, the relationship of parallel lines that are aware of each other without intersecting. They were not enemies.

They were not close friends. They were two men of enormous and different kinds of stature who respected certain things about each other and had not resolved what to make of the rest. The dinner was fine through the first two courses. It was during the third course that Sinatra began talking and did not stop.

And it was at the end of the third course that Wayne said something that nobody at the table expected, and that Sinatra’s reply made worse, and then better, and then something else entirely. This is what happened. First, the context. 1973 was a specific moment in the history of American popular culture, which means it was a specific kind of pressure on the two men sitting at Arthur Freed’s dinner table.

The country had been through 5 years of a public argument about itself that had been conducted at a volume and with an intensity that had made neutrality difficult and sometimes impossible to maintain. Vietnam, the assassinations, the campus upheavals, the political realignments that were reshaping what the parties meant and who stood where and what certain kinds of public figures were expected to say about all of it.

Both Wayne and Sinatra had positions. Wayne’s positions were public and had been public for years. He was a conservative. He believed in the war. He had made The Green Berets in 1968, which was the most explicit thing a major American film star had done to express a political view through a commercial picture since the war years.

And the critical reception had been what it was, which was largely hostile. And his response to the hostile reception had been what it was, which was to continue holding his position. Sinatra’s positions were more complicated, which is a polite way of saying they had changed several times and were not always consistent with each other, and that Sinatra himself was not always comfortable being asked to account for the inconsistency.

He had been a Roosevelt Democrat. He had campaigned for Kennedy. He had shifted in complicated ways that had to do with the Kennedy connection being severed in a specific and personal way, and had moved through the ’60s and into the ’70s along a political trajectory that had surprised many people who had known him in his earlier configuration.

By 1973, he was closer to Wayne’s position than he had been 10 years earlier, which was not a fact either of them found entirely comfortable. This was the background. The foreground, at Arthur Freed’s dinner table on the third Saturday of January was the following. Sinatra had a grievance. He had several in the way that men of his temperament and his history collect grievances, not as a weakness, but as a form of energy, something to burn.

The specific grievance that came to the table that evening was about a journalist. The journalist had written something about Sinatra that was not new, exactly, but had been repackaged and given fresh circulation in a recent publication and had reached Sinatra’s attention through someone who should not have brought it to his attention, but had.

The piece touched on Sinatra’s history with certain figures in organized crime. It was not the first piece to touch on this. It would not be the last. The territory had been covered before by people with more and less legitimacy and more and less documentation. What had gotten to Sinatra was not the facts of the piece, which he disputed with the practice specificity of a man who has disputed similar facts for 30 years.

What had gotten to him was the writer’s interpretation of those facts as evidence of a character deficiency that Sinatra considered not only false, but malicious. He was making this argument at the dinner table. He had been making it since approximately the midpoint of the second course. He was making it well. Frank Sinatra was not a man who argued poorly.

He had a natural lawyer’s quality in conversation, the ability to organize a position and prosecute it, to anticipate objections and address them before they were raised, to find the emotional center of an argument and make sure the emotional center was accessible to his audience. The problem was the length. The dinner table argument about the journalist had begun to crowd out every other conversation at the table.

It had consumed the third course. It was showing no signs of resolution because resolution was not what Sinatra was seeking. He was seeking the validation of his position, which is different from resolution and requires more time and more agreement. The newspaper columnist three seats down was beginning to look at her plate with a careful attention that meant she was waiting.

The writer with the nominated screenplay was having a side conversation with his wife in a register just below audible. Arthur Freed, the host, was the person who would normally redirect a conversation that had run too long in one direction, but Freed had the host’s specific paralysis in the face of a guest who was too prominent to redirect without the risk of offense.

Wayne was at the other end of the table. He had been listening. He had been listening with the expression of a man who is genuinely listening and is forming an opinion about what he is hearing and has not yet decided what to do with the opinion. At the point when the third course was being cleared and the argument showed no signs of following the dishes, he decided.

He did not raise his voice. This is important. The temptation in the telling of a story that involves two men of this size and this temperament is to make it louder than it was. It was not loud. He said at a volume that carried to Sinatra without requiring the attention of the full table. Frank, give it a rest.

The table went quiet, not dramatically, practically. The way a table goes quiet when something has been said that has changed the social weather of the room. Sinatra looked at him. The look was the look that Sinatra deployed when someone had said something he had not expected and he was deciding how to process it. It was not the look of a man who had been wounded.

It was the look of a man who was recalibrating. He continued, not loudly, not aggressively. He continued the argument with Sinatra’s specific ability to make the continuation seem like a natural development rather than a refusal to hear what had just been said. A few minutes passed. Wayne said at the same volume, Frank, let it go.

The table was quieter this time. The side conversations had not resumed. Sinatra looked at him again. Something moved across his face, a flicker of something that was not quite irritation and not quite amusement, but contained elements of both. He continued. The argument had narrowed by now, was running in a tighter circle, had the quality of a man who is not sure how to stop what he has started, and is covering the uncertainty with momentum.

Wayne set down his fork. He said at the same volume, which had never changed, “Frank, the man doesn’t deserve this much of your evening.” The table was completely still. 14 people, not one of them was looking at anything except the tablecloth, or if they had the nerve, the two men at opposite ends. Sinatra was quiet.

For a long moment, he was simply quiet. And then he said something that nobody at that table expected. He said, “You’re right.” Two words. He said them the way Sinatra said things when he meant them, without inflection, without performance, with the specific flatness of a man who has decided a thing is true and is not going to waste anything on the delivery.

Then he picked up his wine glass. He looked down the table at Wayne. He said, “When did you get so smart?” Wayne said, “I’ve been this smart for years. You’ve been too busy talking to notice.” The table laughed. Not the polite laughter of a dinner party finding a diplomatic exit from an awkward moment. Real laughter, the surprised laughter of 60 people who have been watching something tense and have just been released from the tension in a way they did not see coming. Sinatra laughed.

His laugh was the thing that people who knew him well said was the most genuine thing about him in social situations, the one response that he could not perform, that came from where it came from without being managed. He laughed and then he shook his head and said something to the woman on his left that made her laugh, too.

The dinner moved on. But here is the part that the story is actually about. After dinner, after the table was cleared and the guests had moved to the larger room for the kind of post-dinner dispersion that good dinner parties allow, where the groupings reform and the conversations become bilateral or small group rather than the collective performance of the table.

Wayne was by the window with Arthur Freed looking out at the lights of Los Angeles below Mulholland. Sinatra came across the room. He did not come across it in the way that a man comes toward a confrontation. He came across it in the way that a man crosses a room when he has decided he wants to say something privately that he could not say in front of 14 people. He stood next to Wayne.

He looked out at the lights. He said without preamble, he did damage with that piece. Real damage. Not to my reputation, to someone I care about. Wayne looked at him. Sinatra said, there was a name in it. Someone who doesn’t deserve to be in print in connection with any of that. And I have been trying for 3 weeks to find a way to respond that helps that person and everything I try makes it worse.

He said it the way he had said you’re right. Flat, factual, without performance. Wayne was quiet for a moment. He said, who is the person? Sinatra told him. It was not a famous name. It was a private person, someone in Sinatra’s circle, a connection that the journalist had included in the piece as context for a broader point about Sinatra’s associations.

The inclusion had been technically accurate and had been devastating to the private person in ways that had nothing to do with Sinatra’s celebrity and everything to do with the person’s own situation. Wayne listened. He said, what does the person need? Sinatra looked at him. He said, that’s not the question I expected. Wayne said, what question did you expect? Sinatra said, I expected advice on how to respond to the piece.

Wayne said, that’s the wrong problem. The piece is done. The question is what the person needs. Sinatra was quiet. He looked out at the lights. He said, the person needs the connection to me to be less visible for a while. Needs to not be the person who knows Sinatra until this blows over. Wayne said, then stop being Sinatra at them for a while.

Sinatra looked at him. Wayne said, “You know how to do that. You’ve done it before with people you wanted to protect. You make yourself less available to them in public and more available to them in private, and the journalists stop writing about the connection because there is nothing to see.

” He said, “That doesn’t require a dinner table argument about the journalist. It requires you to be smart about the next month.” Sinatra was quiet for a longer moment. He said, “I know that.” Wayne said, “I know you do.” Sinatra said, “I was angry.” Wayne said, “I know that, too.” There was a pause. Sinatra said, “Three times.” Wayne said, “What?” Sinatra said, “You told me three times give it a rest. Let it go.

The man doesn’t deserve this much of your evening.” “Three times before I heard it.” Wayne said, “You heard it the first time.” Sinatra said, “I heard it the first time.” Wayne said, “You needed two more to decide what to do with it.” Sinatra said, “Yes.” Wayne said, “That’s not the worst thing about a man.” They stood by the window for another few minutes, not talking, mostly, looking at the lights.

Arthur Freed, who had moved away when Sinatra approached and who had the host’s antenna for when two guests needed to be left alone and when they needed to be rejoined, rejoined them when the quality of the silence changed. The evening continued. The guests left in the gradual way that guests leave good dinner parties, in pairs and small groups, with the extension into the doorway that always happens when the evening has been good and the leaving feels like a loss. Wayne left at 11:00.

Sinatra left at 11:15. In the driveway, their cars overlapped. Sinatra came to the window of Wayne’s car. He said, “The Green Berets.” Wayne looked at him. Sinatra said, “I never told you what I thought of it.” Wayne said, “I know what you thought of it.” Sinatra said, “You don’t.

” Wayne said, “Half the country told me what they thought of it. You were in that half.” Sinatra was quiet for a moment. He said, “I thought it was honest. I didn’t agree with it, but it was honest. A man made a picture that said what he believed and didn’t dress it up. He said, “That matters, whether or not you’re right, it matters.

” Wayne looked at him. He said, “That cost you something to say.” Sinatra said, “Most truth things do.” He stepped back from the car. He said, “Good night, Duke.” Wayne said, “Good night, Frank.” The car moved down the driveway. Scott Eyman, the journalist who had profiled Wayne in 1971, heard the dinner party story from Arthur Freed’s assistant in 1974, 18 months after it happened.

He wrote it in his notes and did not use it for 20 years because it involved private people and a private evening, and he was not sure what the right moment was. The right moment came when he was writing a longer retros- pective on the era and the people in it and the specific quality of Los Angeles in the late ’60s and early ’70s as a place where enormous talent and enormous ego and enormous pressure existed in close proximity and produced both the best work of the century and the most spectacular failures of temperament. He wrote about

the dinner party as an example of the former. He said the three times detail was what stayed with him. He said Wayne never raised his voice. Three times at the same volume. Most people, the second time would have been louder. The third time would have been a statement. Wayne made all three of them the same.

Just the truth at the same volume waiting to be heard. He said that was harder than it sounded. He was right. Most people can say a truth thing once. Saying it again at the same volume without adding the edge that the repetition makes available, without making the repetition itself into a weapon, that requires something specific.

It requires the belief that the person you’re saying it to is going to hear it eventually, and that the job is just to keep the true thing available until they are ready. Wayne believed that about Sinatra, maybe because he had watched enough men in enough rooms to know that the man making the most noise is usually making it because he cannot hear himself think over the noise, and that what he needs is not to be shouted down, but to have the noise met with something steady and quiet until the noise runs out of fuel.

Sinatra’s noise ran out at the third time. What was left when it ran out was a man at a window asking what the person needed. That was always going to be there. Wayne just waited for it. Sinatra performed at the Sands in Las Vegas in March of 1973, two months after the dinner party. He dedicated one song of the evening to, in his words, a man who knows when to talk and when to shut up and is right about both. He did not say the name.

The people in the room who knew the story knew who he meant. The people who did not know the story assumed it was a woman. It was not a woman. It was a man at the other end of a dinner table in January who had said the same true thing three times at the same volume and had been right about when to say it and right about when to stop.

Sinatra knew the difference because he had been on the receiving end of someone who knew the difference. He had been in enough rooms to know that was rare. He honored it the way he honored the things he considered rare, which was with a song in public with the name withheld because the name was not the point and he understood that and the not saying it was its own form of honoring.

Wayne heard about the dedication from a mutual friend the following week. He said, “Tell him thank you.” He did not call. He did not need to. The dedication was the answer to the driveway. Most true things cost something to say. Both of them knew that. Both of them had paid it.

That was the whole of it, and it was enough. The dinner parties on Mulholland continued. The industry continued. The argument about what America was and what it owed and what it had done continued at a volume that did not diminish much in the years that followed. Wayne and Sinatra moved through the same rooms for the rest of the decade, which for Wayne was the rest of his life, and the quality of what passed between them when they were in the same room was different from what it had been before January of 1973.

Not warmer, exactly. They were not warm men in the easy sense, more honest. The kind of honest that comes from one man telling another man a true thing three times at the same volume until the other man heard it, and the other man coming to a window afterward and saying something true in return. That is a specific kind of honesty.

It does not require friendship. It requires two men who are willing to be in the same room without managing each other, without the performance of regard that covers the absence of it, without the careful maintenance of surface that makes Hollywood’s social life what it most reliably is. They were willing. For one evening in January, and then at a window in a driveway once more, and then in Las Vegas in March, a song, and then the years, which took what they took as years do.

The rooms are still there. The lights of Los Angeles from Mulholland at night are still what they are, which is a very large thing spread out below you that does not explain itself. Two men stood at a window and looked at them and said true things to each other that it cost something to say. The cost was right.

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